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to avoid the fiscal clip. it is the fault of congress. they created this fiscal cliff. they did it. no one else imposed this on them. >> the president has never gone to the nation and made a serious speech about dt. he ignored it the first two years. he appoints a commission that he studiously ignores for the next two years. that is why we are at the clip now. he is not serious about the debt. none of his proposals to raise taxes on the rich. he has never put any political capital in entitlement reform our tax reform. he'll talk about it here and there. never invested any capital in it. >> any difference of opinion? >> if it is such a trivial amount, the raising of taxes on the wealthy, then why the squealing, the yelling, the hurt feelings of all this plutocrats? my goodness gracious. i will say this -- right now, he is absolutely right. all the political advantage is with the president, but if this thing comes to a complete halt and falls, then there would be political blame across the board, and it will undermine all public confidence in the public sector. >> all political advances with
with the fiscal cliff looming large. >> the fiscal cliff gets closer. congress now has six days left to make a deal. >> aloha, hawaii. >> to my republican colleagues, the ronald reagan model is if you get 80% of what you want, that's a pretty good day. >> they were this close. they were this close to a solution. >> he's going to get tax rate hikes. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are. >> be republican and be conservative and pass a bill that cuts tax. >> boehner has no control over his extreme right wing faction. >> should anybody's taxes be raised at this point? answer yes or no. >> no. no. ♪ >> we begin as president obama and the senate head back to washington set for one last effort to avert the first fiscal cliff. aloha means good-bye for the president as he packs bound for the white house tonight. the president cutting short his vacation leaving michelle and the girls behind as he gets back to work to try to prevent tax increases and spending cuts due to begin next week. there's just one problem. it appears there would be no house republicans to help hammer out a deal.
huddy in for alisyn camerota. we're less than 48 hours away from the fiscal cliff. will congress and the white house be able to reach a deal before americans see a 500 billion dollar tax increase? >> and george h.w. bush's health taking a turn for the better. there's good news regarding the former president's healths. >> clayton: well put. >> juliet: well said. >> clayton: a frightening moment when an airplane broke in half crashing on to a busy highway, caught on camera. watch this. >> juliet: oh, how about that car? >> that's not something you see every day. >> no. >> "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ >> hey, everybody. >> juliet: hi, everybody. >> dave: good sunday morning, juliet huddy in for ali. how are you doing, my friend. >> clayton: dave usually gets the coffee. and no coffee around this place. >> dave: i apologize. >> clayton: dave overslept and dropped the ball. >> dave: it happened with my iphone. i woke up an hour too late to my wife shaking me. >> juliet: i don't know what it is about this morning. i'm like in lala land. >> clayton: there is no snow. >> juliet
. >>> in washington negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff are still struggling for survival. congress has five days to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. president obama is on his way to washington this morning while senators are coming back to capitol hill. chip reid is at the capitol. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. the president arrived back in washington in a little bit more than an hour. the senate comes back tonight and the house it could be a couple of days. there is not the sense of urgency you would think there would be with a critical deadline looming. some members of congress admit they may well just go over the fiscal cliff and deal with it in january after the new congress is sworn in. leaving his family behind to continue their vacation without him, president obama boarded air force one early this morning and headed for washington to deal with unfinished fiscal cliff business. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, mr. obama wants congress to ta
're getting your thoughts, and we want to hear your message to congress on the fiscal cliff negotiations. the politico story mentioned what was happening on saturday evening on capitol hill. here is the washington post -- the washington post also offers a handy time line of what is set to happen today in the countdown to the cliff. at 1:00 p.m., the senate is set to reconvene. at 2:00 p.m., the house reopens. -- tonight or tomorrow, on monday -- that is our schedule, the fiscal cliff count down today. i want to turn out to nancy cook of the national journal. she is here to give us -- give us all the latest. her latest story -- and the cook, thank you for joining us. guest: thank you for having me. we are at this late hour. all of these tax hikes and spending cuts are slated to take defect in the new year. congress and the white house had spent seven weeks of bickering over all these different elements of the this clip. as you know, there are many elements. many tax provisions, a lot of spending cuts, and at this point, any deal that is reached will not deal with a lot of these things. it
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the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our benefits are going to have to be lower than they really are -- i am in that bracket of $125,000 to $250,000. i am very comfortable, i could contribute more to the deficit, i just want to make sure that that money goes to
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to avoid the fiscal cliff, which would mean avoiding automatic tax increases and spending cuts come, you know, 1. the president spoke to the nation this evening after an hour-long meeting with congressional leaders at the white house. democrat and republican leaders have agreed to extend jobless benefits and some tax increases. they appear to remain deadlocked on who exactly will pay those higher taxs. we have two reports tonight, beginning with major garrett at the white house. major, good evening. >> reporter: good evening, jeff. two things are clear tonight that were not clear this morning-- progress is real and if a deal is reached, it will be far smaller than any of the key players envisioned only a couple weeks ago. is this deal, if it's to be reached, will not the so-called grand bargain with trillions of dollars of deficit reduction. in fact, jeff, it's not even clear this deal-- again, if there is one-- would stop the across-the-board spending cuts for the defense department and other government programs. it looks like those cuts will go forward. what the president said today is
? >> with congress deadlocked over fiscal cliff negotiations, little else is getting done. one piece of legislation that awaits action is a new farm bill. if it's not passed, the price of milk, which is now $3.54 a gallon, could double. another bill languishing in congress is the emergency funding for states ravaged by superstorm sandy. the senate passed 60.4 billion in aid yesterday, but the house has yet to act. nine weeks after sandy hit, the need for help is immense. >> this is my house, this was my dream, you know, this was the american dream. >> reporter: when hurricanes or floods threaten pedro's house in the past, somehow it always survived. but as sandy belted sta ten island two months ago, correa knew right away this storm was different. >> i looked out the window and seen my car, it was moving. i said wow the win must be really ripping, and i looked closer and it was floating. >> reporter: he had already vaked his wife and two children. he and his brother were trying to save the house. sandy gave them no chance. >> out of the corner of my eye i see my neighbor's house floating, and it cr
of joe manchin as congress prepares to meet again today with the fiscal cliff looming. good morning. the deadline is here and the countdown is down two hours instead of days. the first time since 1970, congress is meeting between the christmas and new year's holiday. preparations are underway as lawmakers -- if lawmakers fail to act. we are 17 hours until the deadline. midnight is the deadline east coast time. here are the numbers. host: also, send us an e-mail and jonas on facebook, -- join us on facebook or you can send us a tweet. let's take a scan of the headlines and we begin with "the atlanta journal-constitution." a lot of talking but still no votes. the deadline has come and gone. one last day for a fiscal deal is the headline from "the boston globe." we are also keeping an eye on wall street. the markets are queasy. from the headlines "the wall street journal." host: a lot of activity on the house and senate chamber. we will be falling all of that on the c-span networks. we have the deputy white house editor from politico. tell us where we stand. guest: we stand in limbo,
an update on the negotiations surrounding the fiscal cliff as congress scheduled to return tomorrow. they talked about the need to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. >> i've been working people of both parties with the help of business leaders and ordinary americans to come together around a plan to grow the economy. a plan that would protect the middle class, cut spending and ask the wealthiest americans to pay a little bit more. i will keep working with anyone who is serious about getting a comprehensive plan like this done. we are now just -- all tax rates are going up. a will get a lot smaller. it would hurt middle-class families and businesses that depend on your spending. congress can prevent it from happening. leaders are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. if an agreement is reached i will urge the senate to hold an up or down vote to protect the middle class from the income- tax hike. it could pass both houses a bipartisan majority. but they still want to vote no, that is their prerogative. they shall let everybody else vote as well. we canno
ameritrade. >>> welcome back to "power lunch." if you were a member of congress what would your fiscal cliff solution be. 2% of you, 2%, said big tax hike. 31% said massive spending cuts. 58% said a mix of spending cuts and tax hikes. 6% said do nothing. blame the other party. 3% said stay quiet. now let's see what's coming up on "street signs." mandy is down at the nysc. >> hi there, ty. we're scaling numerous cliffs. we have the fiscal cliff, the milk cliff and the ranmar cliff. stick around. will 2013 be a do or die year for big box retailers. which ones could be on the line. and it's prediction 2013. we're going to give you three of our big predictions for next year. i brought along a friend. top of the hour, folks, back to you on "power lunch." >> thank you, mandy. >>> back to our top story. congressional leaders heading to the white house in just about 1.5 hours in a last-minute meeting to try to avert the fiscal cliff. the debate on the hill has been downright discouraging. republicans and democrats resorting to name-calling as the year comes to a close. this is what we can expect in
was 75 years old. harris: new information now on the so-called fiscal cliff. if congress and the president can not find a solution most americans will see thousands of additional dollars taken out of their paychecks next year and on top of that you will be paying even more at the grocery store. for example, no compromise means milk subsidies will end. and the cost for a gallon of milk could double. dominic di-natale has latest details from los angeles. so, dominic, has the fiscal cliff crisis gotten so bad that even the price of milk is being affected? >> reporter: certainly is, harris. can you imagine milk hitting six to eight bucks a gallon? we're heading toward that because a new farm bill stalled in congress. under a archaic 1947 law, unless the new bill is passed by december 31st, the government will be forced to buy vast quantities of milk at twice the wholesale rate. two bills are in congress. the senate passed one for $23 billion in savings. the house is looking to enact 35 billion. the sticking point the full house of representatives hasn't approved the bill. >>
business including a possible deal on the fiscal cliff. the senate will be in at 1:00 eastern. though it's in the senate are scheduled for to o'clock p.m. eastern. according to "the washington post" perry began mitch mcconnell have set a deadline at 3:00 when they will be convening caucus meetings and that date members for a possible plan on taxes and spending. president obama was on "meet the press of" today saying the pressure is on congress to make a deal. he was optimistic, but he said that they cannot come to an agreement, he wants the senate majority leader to introduce legislation to make sure middle class taxes stay where they are. live coverage of the senate on c-span2 when the gavel in. the house out to woodcock with the boats as early as 6:00 looking at a number of legislation from veterans to foreign aid. you can watch the house live here on c-span. >> republican olympia snowe from maine is also retiring at the end of the 112th congress after three terms. next, her farewell address. it is about 35 minutes. >> i rise today with an infinite appreciation for the institution of t
to come up with a deal to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff in the u.s. will resume sunday. president obama says that congress must act now to avoid economic disaster. he has been meeting with republican and democratic leaders to reach a deal to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts that take effect january 1. >> the hour-long meeting with president barack obama was the first face-to-face session together with both republican leaders of the latest fiscal crisis. obama said he was modestly optimistic about the agreement by senate leaders on a compromise bill that could be voted on by monday. that is just two days before 6 under billion dollars of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts begin to take effect -- $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect. >> we want to make sure that unemployment insurance is still available for 2 million people and lay the groundwork for additional deficit reduction and economic growth steps to take in the new year. but let's not miss this deadline. >> we are working hard to get there in the next 24 hours. i'm hopeful and optimistic. >>
about more discussion of the fiscal cliff negotiations as congress returns to washington. we will be joined by steve forbes. later, discussion on background checks, how they work, who gets them, and when they are required. our guest is matt bennett. "washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. a cornell university law professor has written books on increasing stock prices. she spoke about what she described as the corporate world in the effort to maximize profits in the short term, but but greater the long-term value of any company. [applause] >> good evening, everyone, and welcome. professor lynn stout is a distinguished professor at the cornell university law school. our work focuses on the intersection of law, business, and morality -- her work focuses on the intersection of law, business, and morality. she has worked with many organizations around the world, including the clinton global initiative. in 2012, she was named tom on the economy -- top on the economy. her new book is the shareholder yth.es met please welcome professor lynn stout. [applause] >> tha
-duck session of congress. they will avoid the fiscal cliff, and they'll do it in a way that will produce a budget agreement either in this lame-duck session or in the first couple of months of next year. that's what i think will happen. >> there's the part of the conversation every year that drives mika crazy when i talk about how we all, in the 1990s, worked together despite some pretty tough differences. >> we didn't in 1995. we had a pretty rough '95. >> '95 was an ugly year. there were a couple of other ugly years. >> but the other ugly years we already had a modus operandi of working together. if you look at what was accomplished in '98, '99 and 2000, they were good years. the only desert year was 1999. >> i faulk specifically about 1999 because people will poke at me when i talk about how you and the republican congress worked together. i say no, you should look at 1999 because even in the worst of times, the president's people were talking to leaders of congress. >> every day. >> and somehow even in the worst of times, even in a constitutional crisis, government worked. people put
of congress to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. shultz followed up with a blog saying everyone should put the pressure on congress. >>> a cartoonist went a more pessimistic approach. a box labeled deficit crisis compromised saying do not open until with all the holidays crossed out signed by boehner and obama. >>> all featured on politico's list of the top viral videos of 2012. the politico ones, of course. here's a look back. >> in the silvery moonlight that bathes every town, the people lie dreaming so safe and so sound. they're warm in their beds, snuggled up in the sheets. but four years before, they were out in the streets. sorry, my friend, but there's no time to snore. we're all on our own if romney has his way. and he's against safety nets. if you fall, tough luck. so i strongly suggest that you wake the [ bleep ] up. >> there's only one thing that might deny us the presidency that is the god-given property of the republican party. >> the 47%? >> nope? >> caymen islands? >> nope. >> $10,000 bet, i like to fire people? >> no. it's a story about an actual shaggy dog. apparently on v
on the fiscal cliff. if he had to, he would press congress to take a straight up or down vote on his plan to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts. according to a wheat from the cnn congressional producer, nancy pelosi is back on capitol hill after the meeting with the president, calling it constructive and candid, saying, wait to see what senators reid and mcconnell can put together. pelosi said boehner made it clear in the white house meeting that he will not move something until the senate moves first. you can find more updates and our special web page on the fiscal cliff, c-span.org /fiscalcliff. we have been looking at the possible impact of the office of a cliff on various sectors, including this conversation about possible effects on social security. host: a dive into social security. here to talk about the program is stephen olmacher, joining us from the associated press. how many people in america receive social security? how much social security to people get? guest: >> 66 million people. the average benefit is a little over $12,000 -- a little over $1,200 a month. maybe $13
on c-span members of congress on the countdown for the so-called fiscal cliff. senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell speak on the floor about the negotiations. then that is followed by the history of "the new york times." on friday's "washington journal" a look at the countdown to the fiscal cliff. our guest will be damian paletta. then homeownership in the u.s. with randallo tool. later, the discussion of the economy, poverty, and hunger. caroline radcliff. "washington journal" live every morning starting at 7:00 eastern on c-span. >> if we turn away from the needs of others, we align ourselves with those forces that are bringing about this suffering. >> the white house is a pulpit and you ought to take advantage of it. >> obesity in this country is nothing short of a public health crisis. >> i think i have little antennas that went up and told me when somebody had their own agenda. >> there is so much influence in that office and it is shame to waste it. >> they serve on a window on the past with what is going on with american women. >> sh she is the only one they can trus
is going on in the congress and the potential fiscal cliff that we are facing and the elimination of the tax cuts that are among us. like me a lot of the small business owners that i talked with no four are in favor of keeping the tax cuts in place especially for the middle class who believe in a balanced approach and we think okay to allow the elimination to tax cuts for the wealthy. for the small business taxes increase i can see the taxes in the business are affected that we will have less to pay for investments and invest in the new equipment to hire new people. but my income tax rates will go up. it's already constrained environment and i'm having a difficult time. customers tax rates are going to go up and that will create less demand for the product and less revenue for me and that creates less tax revenue for the government. so i would urge congress to vote for keeping the tax cuts in place especially for the middle class approaching the fiscal crisis when it comes to the taxes to go ahead and eliminate those tax benefits for the wealthiest individuals. i think if we all g
in and talk about the fiscal cliff and their plans for the next year. we will continue with the forecast of the coming years housing market with lawrence yun, followed by more discussion of the fiscal cliff negotiations as congress returns to washington. we are joined by steve forbes. later, a discussion on background checks, how they work, who gets them, and when they are required. our guest is matt denn it. washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> i just enjoy that it is straight forward, comprehensive, and you can really sense what is happening without a pundit interjecting, and that is what i really appreciate about c-span. it is definitely a great resource for anyone looking to become more familiar with how government works and the ins and outs of capitol hill. >> c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979. brought to you as a public service by your television provider. >> now, state and defense department officials testified at a hearing on violence in the eastern congo. a rebel group of congolese army defectors has been terrorizing people. the congolese
on in congress and the potential fiscal cliff we are facing and the elimination of the tax cuts. a lot of the small business owners i talked to and know are in favor of keeping the tax cuts in place especially for the middle class. we believe in balanced approach and we think it's ok to allow the elimination of the tax cuts for the wealthy. as taxes increase, the taxes at my business will be effected and i will have less to pay for investments and new equipment, hiring new people, but personally my income tax rates will go up. it's already a financially constrained environment. but customers tax rates will go up creating less demand for my products and less revenue for me and less tax revenue for the government. i want to urge congress and senators to vote for keeping our tax cuts in place, especially for the middle class and pushing our fiscal crisis to a balanced approach. go ahead and eliminate those tax cuts for the wealthiest individuals. if we all look at it and tried to consider what was going to work for the best, we needed to look at consumer demand. consumer demand is in the
one week left before the country goes over the fiscal cliff. your taxes will soar if congress and the president can't reach a deal. so steve is live for us in washington with the very latest. all right, good morning to you, steve. >> good morning, gretchen. yeah, the house as you know, tried and failed to pass some kind of a compromise on that fiscal cliff. now the spotlight falls on the u.s. senate. some kind of deal could have a better chance there because the senate is not as bitterly divided as the house. success depends partly on whether mitch mcconnell decides to filibuster any legislation. there is senate republicans who are willing to compromise in order to avoid the fiscal cliff. including kay bailey hutchison of texas and johnny isakson of georgia. >> time is running out. and the truth of the matter is, if we do fall off the cliff after the president's maturitied, he'll come back, propose just what he proposed yesterday in leaving washington and we'll end up adopting it. why should we put the markets mn such turmoil and the people in misunderstanding or lack of confi
national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> on capitol hill negotiations on the so-called fiscal cliff continues this weekend as congress is scheduled to return tomorrow. here is what senate majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell had to say yesterday from the senate floor after their meeting with president obama. >> i talked to the republican leader bob this is generally -- about this generally. we had a constructive meeting. i hope something positive will come from that. the republican leader and i and our staffs are working to see what we can come up with. but it should not take a long time to do that. but it would be in everyone's interest if we were in session tomorrow. we have another vote that has been set up >> you were talking about sunday, right? >> yes. we're going to have another caucus a following that, and hopefully by that time we will have made a determination, senator mcconnell and i, and we can do something on the floor in addition to what i talked about. we do need that time to have everybody kind of step back a little bit. if we come up with s
the job done . here's what we are facing. we are teetering on the edge of the fiscal cliff. there are many members in congress who disaagree raising of tax. the president had gone up to $400,000 when house speaker boehner would raise the tax hikes . but the sticking point is enments and spending. >> clayton: the republicans saying that the president and democrats not forth coming enough on entitlements. here's what will unfold in a few short days as we break this down to you. >> put your seat belts on, people. >> clayton: tax rates will hit these numbers and you go up to 120,000 . you will see 31 percent up to 36 percent . in these tax rates as they climb up. >> here's the bottom line. average tax rate of 2,000 to $4000. it is an additional 13,944 . millionaire's status which the president wanted to raise status on will be 34635. big deep in your pockets if woo go off the fiscal cliff. >> it is so crazy . we have the holiday get together. living in new york city . it is so expensive and you are making $250,000. you are middle class here. >> clayton: if you have a family of four and taxes a
the fiscal cliff. it will be an interesting few days as congress starts to reconvene. and also as corporate america is taking up this fight as well. ceo howard schulze of starbucks urging workers at 120 washington area stores to start writing on their coffee cups, come together. >> are you serious? >> yes. yes. >> that should help. i think that's going to do it. >> problem solved. >> between that, and the pins. >> i never thought of that. >> can you imagine -- oh, good idea, howard schulze. but he says we deserve better. >> we probably do. >> he's right. >> a lot of them are still on vacation. house members have been told there's nothing scheduled for this week. but you could be called back with 48 hours' notice. so, in a perfect world, things could possibly come together. >> 48 hours' notice and we have five days to go. >> i'm not saying we're not cutting it awfully close, but that's where things stand as of right now. >> new new housing data out tod home prices rose 4.3% in the 12 months ending in october in a 20-city composite, beating analysts' forecasts. it did appear as 12 of the 20 c
with the fiscal cliff. i'm looking now to congress and say, pass the amt patch today. >> gretchen: all right. we'll see if they're listening to marty, a cpa who is a little nutsoutrig to get everything done before year's end. >> thank you very much. >> gretchen: georgetown cup cakes secret ingredient this new year, champagne? we're showing you how it make the party even sweeter with sophie. yep, she's just one part of the team with our others and she's here hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. >> gretchen: welcome back. wicked weather like this wreaking havoc on airports across the country. what can travelers expect? wfxt's katherine is live at logan international airport with the latest op the travel nightmare out of boston. good morning. >> good morning, gretchen. the sun is shining on us here in boston. but flights already beginning to be affected by the storm. flights going to dallas, columbus and
are with the fiscal cliff and we are in the lame-duck session, but the debt to gdp ratio for the united states has continued to arrive. there are many people who have pointed fingers. what is your response? >> there is no question the pattern in washington is to spend every dime we can collect. almost regardless. there is a view that says if a program is funded, it ought to continue to be. the appropriations committee has the responsibility of oversight to make sure we are using the dollars well. during the time i chaired my first subcommittee of appropriations, dealing with veterans and housing, we went about reducing the appropriations. this has been over a decade ago. for every category of the president's budget within my subcommittee. we were successful. the first significant step of saying, we can spend less. we do not have to spend more on every program every year. >> what about the years you held the gavel? >> the commitment we made was to pass every appropriations bill by the fourth of july break. my staff said i am crazy. it was feasible if you went about the work seriously. by the fourth
get meaningful spending cuts, preserve entitlements back into the dialogue of this fiscal cliff debacle? >> well, i don't think we have it to encourage fiscal responsibility so much as we have it because it's required for congress to authorize borrowing money to pay our debt and deficit obligations. it's, the way i look at it, it is a mere constitutional technicality and we should raise it. i would like to make one point about on the downgrade issue that he just talked about. if we go over the fiscal cliff, that would certainly be no reason for a downgrade because we would be cutting the deficit and the debt. lori: right. >> but if we kick the can down the road here and don't do anything with a short-term solution, then i think it would be reasonable for the debt, excuse me for --. lori: another downgrade. >> for us to be downgraded, excuse me. lori: let me send it back over to you. there is a line of thinking if we do suffer a second credit downgrade that it could actually have more of ramification than just one downgrade because you do have a handful of credit agencies, right?
his annual vacation in hawaii to deal with the fiscal cliff. no sight of congressional leaders. they're not in town. investors getting a little bit nervous. will congress get it together in time? no talks that we know of are imminent. it was by at least one measure, the weakest holiday retail sales growth since the financial crisis back in 2008, but could a post-christmas holiday sales bounce be around the corner? >>> and what a year it has been for tech. gadgets and gizmos. apple, facebook, microsoft all have big news. will 2013 be a lucky year for the sector? which tech titans might lead the new trends? simon hobbs is in at the new york stock exchange. >> good afternoon. when president obama arrives back in d.c., can he prevent america falling over the fiscal cliff? house republicans haven't yet called their members back to washington. our chief political correspondent, john harwood, is with us. john, this feels very much like it might be the calm before the storm in more way than one. >> it could be if we go over the cliff and the storm would be generated by the markets and the lo
's not just the fiscal cliff, we've been talking about dairy farmers and wind farmers facing their own cliff. the price of a gallon of milk could cost $8 next year if congress fails to renew certain agricultural programs come december 31st. that's when wind farmers will also see the federal wind production tax credit disappear, which could lead the industry at a standstill. in addition to the fiscal cliff, milk cliff, and wind farm cliff, what other cliff are you worried about these days? tweet us. we have a new handle @squawkstreet and junior responses throughout the morning. >> some people on twitter have criticized how we just called it the container cliff. saying not everything is a cliff. >> but everything is a cliff. there is a deadline. >> containers will come in tor they won't. it's binary. >> we were chatting during the break, we're not allowed to own stocks, individual names, but if there was a name you wish you'd bought in the face of bad news last year? >> jpmorgan. it seemed that everyone wanted to sell off the stock, and this would be a huge impact on jpm. it had some perceptio
which may or may not be direct limb reply indicated in the fiscal cliff talks but it is relevant to the larger issue of debt and deficits. the treasury can move money around in certain ways to extend the point where we actually reach a crisis for probably a couple of months. but this is an early warning sign. secondly, republicans in the house sent word to democrats in the senate, white house, it is your turn now. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that without objection tend all of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the
it allows our country to go over the fiscal cliff and really hurts almost every american family in our country, in our economy, as a whole. this shouldn't be a surprise to us. it's not as if, if i could use the metaphor, that congress was going along in a bus and -- on a ride through the country and suddenly came to the end of the road and there was a cliff. this shouldn't be a surprise to us. we -- we -- we created this cliff ourselves a year and a half ago when we adopted the budget control act. and we created it for a very good reason: because we knew that we had proven ourselves incapable of making the compromises that were necessary to achieve the long-term bipartisan debt-reduction program that america desperately needs. we're over $16.4 trillion in debt. i'm in my last days as a u.s. senator. if you'd told me when i started that we'd be $16 trillion in debt, i wouldn't have believed it. frankly, if you told me just a dozen years ago at the end of the clinton administration when we were in surplus that we could possibly be $16 trillion in de debt, i would have thought -- well, i
? >> happy friday. >> there we go, happy friday. listen, this fiscal cliff deal, everyone is so sick of hearing the phrase. i it talked to several this week, members of congress and members of the senate who indicate we're going over the cliff. they say it won't be that bad. don't worry about it. there's something in me that wonders about the psychological impact of just going right over. >> mike, you're right. they are saying that, and there's a real risk especially in the white house. they know that the reaction of the markets, especially overseas, the credit raters is unpredictable. you don't want to start your second term with a double-dip recession. that's the real risk here. for republicans more and more you hear them saying and i think this is what you're refer to here. you hear them saying, let's just wait until people get their first paycheck. wait until they get that pay economic when there's less withheld and there's not a payroll tax holiday but then they want tax relief. it's a huge risk. another political game at play here. sherman has a great story on the sight right t
. fewer than five days to go until whi we go over the proverbial fiscal cliff and when dividend taxes go up it makes an already bad situation worse. >> right now the tax is 15%. by next tuesday, folks, wouts a deal from congress, they are going to more than double to 39.6%. now he wrote this opinion piece in "forbes" highlighting an unfair tax code that rewards debt and penalizes those dividend payments. joining us now here is the author of that, the ceo of otc markets group. you've got a real bone to pick over this. plain your special. thank you amanda and bill. have 16 under daying securities in the otc marketplaces. these companies attract dividend investors. keep them honest and great source of revenue. hour, dividend taxes are not taxed at 15% but are double taxed. companies have to pay taxes on their profits before distributing them as dividends. dividends are double taxed and will almost be triple taxed unless we do something in washington. all those million of dividend investors should be really angry. bad for them but it's bad for the economy. >> realistically though could we re
that the house of representatives will reconvene sunday to have deal supposedly with the fiscal cliff. the dow jones industrials down by 150 points at one point recovered to lose just 18. the s&p 500 finished just two points lower. nasdaq down 4.25. congress department says sales of new homes went up almost 4.5% last month. that's the highest rate of growth in total sales in more than 2 1/2 years. that's it from cnbc, now back to "hardball." ♪ >>> if their competitor in '16 is going to be hillary clinton supported by bill clinton and presumably a still relatively popular president barack obama, trying to win that will be truly the super bowl, and the republican party as it is today is incapable of competing at that level. >> welcome back to "hardball." newt gingrich's reverence for hillary clinton is certainly a long way from the near contempt republicans held for her back in the '90s. even as a senator hillary clinton was close with some high-profeel republicans. she had friends up there. this archival l.a. times story's headline the secret friendship of hillary clinton and john mccain. but
and congress can't come up with a deal both on taxes and spending. you know, we have the fiscal cliff looming, as everybody has been talking about for months and months now, and they can't understand why you can't take marketplace reality and marry it with cogent tax policy. and john boehner talked about a million dollar threshold on income. the president talking 250. there's a compromise there. they were close already. but the number one thing that small business main street america, uncertainty. they don't know how to plan for their businesses, should they buy a new computer, hire new people, the fiscal cliff is damaging the economy today. >> juliet: what are they doing? they don't know what to do. you have to act the at a certain point. are they laying people or, are they not moving? >> it's minimalist, do the least amount you can do at this point in time until you know what your tax liability is going to be. until you know what the economic outlook's going be to be. are we going to have another recession. >> juliet: how is that affecting them by doing the least, the least type of movement
on the solution to the fiscal cliff. employees in the washington area starbucks will write the message on customers' cups, urging leadership from congress. aol is also joining the effort by sharing the come together message across its network of hyperlocal websites called patch. you know, this is really a terrific thing. it's a lot of extra work for the employees in all the starbucks, but it's a terrific thing just to remind people -- not that they need reminding -- that we are represented by incompetence in washington. >> it's true. it's very howard schultz, the ceo, who has used his platform of one of the largest companies in the world to push a message or do what's good for the greater good. a couple years ago during the jobs crisis, if you remember, he did a program where you could donate $5, get a bracelet, and it would go towards a fund to lend to businesses to get jobs going. also gives all of his employees health care benefits and has risk investors for doing that. this is very -- this was very, you know, in line with what starbucks stands for. >> it's also consistent with the
to fiscal cliff issues, several agencies within washington, d.c. are planning should the deadline, and go without resolution -- fairfax, va., democrats line -- caller: dennis kucinich is the one true democrat that we had in the congress. he made more sense than was a true man of the people, in favor of ending the war is, stopping the ridiculous spending, and he will be greatly missed. i will not miss out on the west. host: from the world section of "the washington post" -- bronx, new york, republican line. caller: how are you? i will miss alan west the most because he is the only comedian. i like comedians. i am from the virgin islands anyway. nobody in the virgin islands like him. i like him because he was a comedian. i hope he does not exist anymore, thank you. host: this is from twitter -- jeff is on the phone from bedford, va., independent line. caller: probably jim webb who did not fall into party politics and he has a good chance if he runs for governor of virginia. i think he would do a fine job as secretary of defense. host: that is the fourth or fifth the. how long have you been
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